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February 12 edit

how can i edit wikipedia? edit

hello! can you teach me how to edit a article on wikipedia! thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TBS1727 (talkcontribs) 01:05, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@TBS1727: Welcome and thanks for wanting to contribute. Check out the learning game at WP:ADVENTURE and also the tutorial at WP:TUTORIAL. If you run into specific questions, come on back to the help desk, RudolfRed (talk) 01:09, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Missing City information for the Kansas City MSA - Spring Hill, KS edit

Our population is now 10k or above. Smaller cities have been cited and as a Spring Hill / Johnson County resident. I think it would be beneficial to have Spring Hill listed as one of the cities. Considering the growth rate at which we are incurring I believe it lends some relevance to the immediate and overall population of the KCMSA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:02, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

{{{1}}} This is a matter for the article's talk page, not here. If you have any questions with editing, feel free to reply to this comment. Aasim 07:01, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Why can’t I edit this page? edit

I followed the instructions on how to edit the page at this url which is on a political hot button topic, Trump Derangement Syndrome, but a box popped up at the bottom of the page with the error message "This page is protected to prevent vandalism." The page address is [[1]]

I tried to read through the help pages resulting from the wiki search phrase "not allowed", but I don't know which, if any, of the restrictions detailed would apply to the page in question, and, of more interest to me, why this would be the case. is it because it is about our political situation, and any input could be interpreted as slanderous and open Wikipedia to a lawsuit?

To give context to my query, this article describes how Republicans use TDS in a derogatory way, as if Democrats are all elitist, pearl-clutching hysterics. The edit I wanted to do was the addition of how progressives use the same term, TDS, but they are using it to describle how many democrats have become so tramatized by Trump's presidency that they are experiencing Stockholm Syndrome. In this state, which is akin to a trance, the person becomes one of "the sheeple" that blindly follow the candidate who has the greater power.

When Republican say TDS they are deriding Democrats that are to the left of them, whereas progressives use it to describe Democrats who are to the right of them. I want to make this point because the last four years have upturned our previous reality. "Alternate facts" have created an alternate reality where we are being subjected to gaslighting and our grasp on what is happening to us is constantly under threat, — Preceding unsigned comment added by BabyBella1000! (talkcontribs)

Per the little padlock that appears in the upper-right corner of that page, you would need to be a extended confirmed user in order to edit that page. Basiclaly, you need to be around here awhile and have more edits to your name. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 06:13, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello, BabyBella1000!. What Doniago hasn't told you is that, though you cannot edit that article at present, there is a way for you to request an edit: you can post on the talk page Talk:Trump derangement syndrome. See Edit requests for how best to do this. In this case I would advise reading through that Talk page, including its archives, first, to see if the issue you want to raise has already been discussed. Note also that any information you wish to introduce to the article must be based on reliable published sources; original research is not allowed in any Wikipedia article. --ColinFine (talk) 11:07, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @BabyBella1000!: The above replies are complete (and correct!) regarding how you should proceed. Just to answer the question of why the page is so protected, it is not due to legal considerations (or at least mostly not).
Some people are, shall we say, more interested in seeing Wikipedia reflect their point of view than following the guidelines for collaborative editing. You can easily imagine that having the content of pages determined by who can edit their preferred version the fastest does not lead to a stable and reliable encyclopedia, nor to a nice editing environment. When such people are few and not well-determined (typical example: schoolboys replacing pages with obscenities) they can be dealt with on an individual and after-the-fact basis. However hot-button issues attract large crowds of well-determined such editors (for non-American examples, see Western Sahara, Sea of Japan naming dispute, etc.).
To avoid that, pages can be subject to the page protection policy. There are several levels of protection, the most common being "semi-protected" (= can only be edited by accounts with >=10 edits and >=4 days of age) to ward off new users coming for vandalism (typical use case: a famous TV personality says to go and edit a given Wikipedia page to put crap in it). Here, it is "extended confirmed" which means >=500 edits and >=30 days, a rather high bar that would need some effort to overcome if you are here to push a particular point of view on a particular article. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Bullock family edit

Please repair reference number 17. I cannot do this myself. Thanks in advance. (talk) 06:29, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done MB 06:35, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Please place a full stop at the end of the "Bullocks at Faulkbourne" section as I cannot do this Thanks110.145.38.110 (talk) 06:44, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done Maproom (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

I can't donate to you because you are asking pan and I don't have it. edit

I want to donate to your cause but I can't because I don't have pan . So can you tell me is there any other way for it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shubhamdash0 (talkcontribs) 08:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, SHubhamdash0. Thank you for wanting to support this project. I don't know wht "pan" is, but details the methods available for donating. --ColinFine (talk) 11:10, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
@ColinFine: Fixing a ping, misdirected due to a typo in the user's name: Shubhamdash0. --CiaPan (talk) 11:18, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
And FYI, PAN is primary account number, another name for a credit card number. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Word Count edit

Where can I find out how often a certain word appears on a particular wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:21, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Copy the text. Go to this page (Lextutor Text-Based Concordances). Paste your text into the large box (replacing the text that's already there). Click "submit". -- Hoary (talk) 12:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Many browsers can show it for any page with Ctrl+F, and also find the occurrences. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft article is now empty since PC crash edit

I created a draft article "Les Mathurins" using the New Article Wizard. I spent ages on it last night and this morning adding references etc. It was looking pretty good and near to complete. I clicked Preview several times while editing it, so it must have been saved on Wikipedia's servers OK. Then my PC crashed a couple of hours ago. I have just tried to reload the draft page to continue with it, but now the page has the message "Wikipedia does not have a page with this exact title." and all of my carefully crafted content has gone - the edit window is completely empty! :(((

Can someone explain how to get this back - I just can't face typing all of this in again and searching out all of the references again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Croeville (talkcontribs) 15:06, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but it won't have been saved on the Wikipedia servers unless you clicked "Publish changes", rather than "Preview". That button used to have the more helpful name "Save", as that's what it does. It was changed to "Publish", even though when applied to a draft it doesn't actually publish it, for legal reasons.
By the way, Mathurins exists as a redirect to the article Trinitarian Order.   Maproom (talk) 16:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

... and of course that was the reason why I didn't click Publish. Ok, I'll take deep breath and have one more go, and click Publish at regular intervals while editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Croeville (talkcontribs) 16:51, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, a lot of people have been misled by that. Also some in the other direction, clicking "Publish" and wondering why it doesn't move their draft to article space. The decision to assign a misleading label to the button was made by the Wikimedia Foundation, without consulting us editors who actually do the work. Thank you for your willingness to persist. Maproom (talk) 22:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
@Croeville: Sadly, the term "publish" has a specific technical meaning in the context of copyright law. It means "make available to the public". Everything you add to any place at all in Wikipedia is visible to the public. This includes your saved work in progress: the only difference is that your work in progress is a little harder to find. Note that the term "publish" appears in the text that you agree to (displayed immediately above the buttons) when you click the "publish" button. This entire situation is immensely frustrating. -Arch dude (talk) 18:40, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Help with creating my Page edit

Hu, I am confused as to why my page I just created/contributed to has not been officially published? I don't know what other steps to do... I am in a tight bind and would love some help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katepounders (talkcontribs) 17:24, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@Katepounders: you did not submit your draft article for review. To do so, place this syntax at the top of your draft: {{subst:submit}}. However: 1)There is a long backlog for reviews. 2) You may have a deadline, but we don't (Wikipedia:There is no deadline). 3) if you submit this article, it will be declined due to lack of demonstrated notability: see WP:NBAND, or more humorously but more brutally, Wikipedia:No one cares about your garage band. -Arch dude (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
There was a "Resubmit" button on your draft but you deleted it; I have reinstated it so that you can resubmit when you have addressed the problems. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:34, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Note: The OP has created content in draftspace, in a sandbox and at their userpage; I have left a welcome message at talk, together with a note about duplicated items. Eagleash (talk) 20:07, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Editing and item on Motorcycles. edit

I have attempted to Edit on the page for Associated Motorcycles a Grammar/factual error. I have edited the page but then I signed out my editings were NOT saved. Seems very little point editing in the first place. What is going on, how does one Edit that is useful and saved? A O — Preceding unsigned comment added by Al Oz (talkcontribs) 18:53, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

You didn't save the edit (using the "Publish changes" button). --David Biddulph (talk) 18:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

writing about myself edit

Hello- My name is Jon Michaels and I am a professional Singer Songwriter. I have had several recordings by major artist and my name is listed on several discographies in Wikipedia. I do not have a page describing my career and my successes. I would like to start a page on Jon Michaels Music. If you are writing about yourself, what are the parameters and is that allowed? How do I get started? It look daunting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chpls (talkcontribs) 20:24, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@Chpls: If writing about yourself on Wikipedia looks daunting, that's because it is. I strongly recommend you do not write about yourself on Wikipedia.  Please read Wikipedia:Autobiography to get an idea of the problems with autobiographies and some of the applicable policies. Also, read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing to understand why you may regret the existence of such an article. If, having read those, you are still determined to attempt to write an article about yourself, read Wikipedia:Notability (music) and see if you meet the criteria for a musician to have an article about them. If so, then read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest to understand the disclosure requirements you must comply with as someone with a conflict of interest. Then, read Your first article for advice on how to write a Wikipedia article. Lastly, once you have read and understood all of those pages, if you feel you are notable and still want to attempt to write about yourself on Wikipedia, gather some sources that have published information about you but that are unaffiliated with you or your band or publicist and head over to the Wikipedia:Article_wizard. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia page edit

Why does FlightTime Phone keep deleting Kathryn Ann Taylor’s Wikipedia page? She is a notable person. Why does FlightTime Phone not want her linked to her husband’s page? Tom Steyer is running for president of the United States of America. This is really shady that FlightTime Phone can keep deleting his wife’s page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDM88 (talkcontribs) 20:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@MDM88: First, Kathryn Ann Taylor was not deleted, it was moved to Draft:Kathryn Ann Taylor. This is routinely done when a page is created that does not meet the basic definition of an article. It needs to cite some sources that discuss Ms. Taylor and provide information about her. It needs to show that she is notable. That's why it was moved to draft, so that you could continue to work on it and get it to an acceptable level of quality before moving it back into the encyclopedia. No one is trying to supress information; just enforce a minimal standard for article quality. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:56, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Referencing the talk page. edit

Is there any circumstance when an article should have a link to the talk page of the article? I know that there are templates that have v t e, but I'm specifically talking about articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talkcontribs) 23:44, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@Naraht: Not that I can think of. Do you have a particular situation in mind? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:00, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
@AlanM1: Yes, but I think I can convince the other editor in question. Not sure how I can search for them. Simply using insource: finds them inside comments.Naraht (talk) 04:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Many templates at Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup display a link to the talk page for discussing the issue. "talk page" occurs 73 times on the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

How do I create an article? edit

How do I create an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HCI570 User (talkcontribs) 23:49, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

You should search for the guide on Wikipedia! That will help. New3400 (talk) 00:31, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
@New3400: I think they were asking for a pointer to the guide, which another user has kindly provided on their talk page. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

February 13 edit

Is there a place on Wikipedia to talk about things not Wikimedia related? edit

Is there one? New3400 (talk) 00:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

New3400, Generally, no. Wikipedia is not a forum. It is used to discuss improvements to WIkipedia. There is an "offtopic" channel on the wikipedia WP:DISCORD, but nothing on Wikipedia. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 01:52, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
There are Wikipedia:Reference desks, which are often used to discuss topics tangentially related to Wikipedia. Ruslik_Zero 15:52, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Creating a new article edit

How do I create an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HCI570 User (talkcontribs) 00:36, 13 February 2020 (UTC)Dude, just answered that above. Just saying. New3400 (talk) 00:37, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

HCI570 Be advised that successfully creating a new article is the hardest task on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice. You will greatly increase your chances of success if you first spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, in order to get a feel for how Wikipedia works and what is expected of article content. You should also use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia.
However, if you still want to attempt to create an article, you should read Your First Article and then use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 00:40, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
@HCI570: You can create a new article on any topic that is notable by our definition: see WP:N. Any attempt to create a page on a non-notable topic will fail. Therefore, start by finding reliable sources (WP:RS) that show notability. There are many way to mess this up, so look at Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability). Do not proceed until you have found at least two sources that establish notability. When you find them, proceed to Help:Your first article. Good luck! -Arch dude (talk) 02:07, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale edit

In the "Family" section - on the word Darnton Lupton - please link in directly to Darnton Lupton's section of the Lupton family page. I cannot do this - thanks (talk) 01:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

It's done like this:
[[Lupton family#Darnton Lupton|Darnton Lupton]]
which renders as:
Darnton Lupton.
See H:LINK and WP:LINK for more about linking. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:11, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

I cannot do this (see above) on my device - please fix if u can. Thanks (talk) 04:07, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Done. -- Hoary (talk) 04:16, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Reverting edits of a sockpuppet of blocked editor edit

Hi, I think the reason that sockpuppets of blocked editors keep creating accounts is that their edits are not usually reverted. Is there a script to rollback or undo all edits by a sockpuppet? Or are there editors who are willing to revert sockpuppets edits?. I have reverted some of edits made by a sockpuppet.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Any editor can revert any edit by a user who is evading a block or ban. Any articles created by such editors can be tagged for deletion under the G5 criterion. If they are not reverted, it's likely because they have not been detected. A mass rollback tool is available to administrators, and is often used for this purpose. Yunshui  14:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Yunshui, the mass rollback tool is only available to admins? Do you mean this tool?-SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 14:23, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I think any user with Rollback can use Writ Keeper's script. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:26, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow! great! thanks Yunshui and ONUnicorn.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
SharabSalam, For reference, admins additionally have the Wikipedia:Nuke tool, which allows them to delete all pages created by a user. However, there aren't many circumstances in which it would be useful in this case, as WP:G5 doesn't apply if others had significantly edited the page. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 22:17, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Image for user page edit

How the heck do I actually put an image in my personal user page? This is really flummoxing me.-Watercolorheart (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

I have moved your message to its appropriate place among today's messages, rather than at the top of the page. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Watercolorheart, at, for example [2], click "Use this file", copy the "thumbnail" code and paste it on your userpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll try it. I feel like I need a really advanced degree to use Wikipedia now, LOL. I'm so behind the times.-Watercolorheart (talk) 09:23, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Found full res image and shrank it,Watercolorheart.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:59, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, it's looking better now.-Watercolorheart (talk) 10:17, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Articles for Creation edit

How can I det in the disscusion abaut this article : — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander Hadjinedelchev (talkcontribs) 16:18, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Alexander Hadjinedelchev: Hello, if you want to join the discussion, click on the link in your post and then on 'edit source' next to the bold blue sub-heading. Then add your comment to the bottom of the discussion use a bullet point (*) and begin your post with Cmt (for comment) Del (for delete) or Keep. Use the bold text (3 straight apostrophes) like so '''Del''' in the source. If this is not what you mean, please clarify.Template:Please (including in deletion discussions). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 16:36, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

AfD query edit

How can I vote for this article : — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander Hadjinedelchev (talkcontribs) 18:39, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

An AfD doesn't involve voting per se, but you can register your opinion by editing the AfD page (just as you edited this one) to place your comment at the bottom of page. See WP:DISCUSSAFD. Deor (talk) 18:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
See also the response given above. Eagleash (talk) 20:41, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Note: Duplicated threads merged. Eagleash (talk) 20:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

2020 Mountain West Conference football schedule edit

Can you fix the error on the reference i made please. (talk) 18:10, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Corrected in this edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:23, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Can't revert vandalism because of blacklist edit

I tried to revert the most recent edit to River, but couldn't save the corrected version; the error message was lengthy and referred to the blacklist, but it wasn't clear which the blacklisted url was. It has presumably been added to the blacklist since the article was previously saved. Could someone please sort out the problem? --David Biddulph (talk) 18:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

David Biddulph, another editor managed the revert. I think it's just some weird random bug; I had the same issue with United States, tried several times to revert and then to restore an earlier version, but it wouldn't allow it because of (supposedly) blacklisted URLs. A different editor came in behind me and had no problem reverting and never saw that error message. Strange times... Schazjmd (talk) 19:03, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Cat-a-lot edit

Hi, I dont really know how to use this tool I am trying to add a category to a lot of articles and remove the over-categorization at the same time but i am not able to do that. Here is an example of what I am trying to do, I want to add Category:Districts of Taiz Governorate to this article, while also removing Category:Districts of Yemen and Category:Taiz Governorate from the article. I think this tool is able to do that in one click but I am not sure how. Thanks in advance.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 18:57, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Revising Page edit

I am trying to revise

I revised it on 2/10 and submitted my revisions. Everything looked revised, but when I looked today the page went back to it's original information.

Can you help?

Bkay123 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

@Bkay123: the version you submitted reads like an advertisement or something the company's PR team would write. Wikipedia is not the place for public relations. Your version also did not cite any independent sources. Are you by any chance an employee of the company or being paid to edit Wikipedia on their behalf? If so, please make the mandatory disclosure. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 19:54, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Bkay123: A large removal of content with a terse comment by an unregistered user will frequently be reverted after a cursory review. When this occurs, you should start a discussion with the reverting editor on the article's talk page: see WP:BRD. As a separate issue, your edits make it appear that you may be associated with the article's topic. If so, please read and comply with WP:PAID (this is not optional) or WP:COI, as appropriate. This possible association might have helped trigger the reversion. In a case like this, it is probably best for you to explicitly state that you are NOT associated with the topic if that is the case. -Arch dude (talk) 19:59, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

How to remove table of contents from userpage? edit

I'm not sure how or why it happened, but my userpage (User:Silver_seren/Userpage) has been plagued with an unsightly table of contents of my subheader sections and the table covered a whole half the page unless you hit the hide button. I'd like to just remove the table of contents altogether. I don't need it there. I know that there's likely some sort of template or some use of "noinclude" HTML to get it gone, but I don't know what to use or where to place it in my page's code to get rid of the thing. Can anyone assist, please? SilverserenC 20:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

__NOTOC__ is how to surpress a contents. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 20:57, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Lee! SilverserenC 21:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
FYI - I created a redirect for NOTOC a few years back after struggling to find the info myself. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Almy reverting relevant info to my community. edit

Almy is retracting updates that are very important to the community/ families. If you feel it is 'not constructive', you are making assumptions.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

You are posting unsourced information about a living person. This is against policy. 331dot (talk) 22:45, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
And that's a very strong policy. It's one of the few policies where every editor is supposed to revert on sight instead of having the option to discuss first. If you have references to support your changes, please add them. In general, when one of your edits is reverted, you should discuss the edit with the reverting editor on the article's talk page to reach a consensus. See WP:BRD -Arch dude (talk) 01:21, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Different article - same name edit

I just wrote an article on actress Cathy Baker from the television show Hee Haw. I don't know how to re-direct from: Catherine Baker (disambiguation) so that Cathy Baker now links to mine. This Cathy Baker here: Catherine Marie "Cathy" Thompson-Baker only has one line for her entire article. The article for actress Cathy Baker has much more for career and life. I'd like to have it direct to her; with a re-direct (disambiguation) to the other. How do I do that? Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 23:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

@Maineartists: Don't redirect it. Add a link to the new article to that person's entry on the disambiguation page. RudolfRed (talk) 00:00, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
@RudolfRed: Sorry. I thought I knew what you were talking about, but I guess not. The "Cathy Baker" who is on WP now is really not Cathy Baker, but Catherine Thompson-Baker. The actress that I am attempting to add to WP is known professionally by Cathy Baker and has more substantial content the one-line article on Thompson-Baker (actually, I do not believe this "Cathy Baker" even fulfills the requirements for notability at WP). How do I make it so when a WP reader types in "Cathy Baker", it brings up the actress first, and then gives the re-direct link (disambiguation) at the top of the article? Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 00:19, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Also, the subject isn't even "Baker", but Cathy Thompson: Olympic Athletes: Cathy Thompson as the article states in its only source. Maineartists (talk) 00:39, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible to "move" the old page to "Cathy Thompson-Baker"? Which would be the most sensible in this situation for all. Maineartists (talk) 00:45, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
It's difficuilt to judge, due to the dearth of sourcing, what the hockey player's commonname might be but it's not a terrible solution to move her to Thompson-Baker or perhaps to C. Baker (hockey) / (field hockey). FWIW per WP:NOLY she does have notability. Eagleash (talk) 00:51, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Well, @Eagleash:, you know you're one of my absolute favorite editors here at WP, so whatever you suggest, I'll follow. Question: if I opt to move the page, the old title still becomes a redirect, yes? Will that correct itself once I bring the other article to the main space? Maineartists (talk) 00:59, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Maineartists: My vote: move the hockey player to Cathy Baker (hockey), making sure to correct the incoming links. Add your new article as Cathy Baker (actress). Move Cathy Baker (disambiguation) to overwrite Cathy baker. This last step can be deferred as it may require an admin. There are many editors that think that the DAB page should be at the main title unless there is a very clear "winner" of the notability contest, and even a few like me that think that the DAB should always be at the main title even if there is a clear "winner". One reason is that the last several times I did something like this, at least one of the incoming links to the ambiguous name was misdirected and needed to be corrected. -Arch dude (talk) 01:10, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
My reasoning is that we have automated ways to find improper links to a DAB page, but not to a "most notable" page. If someone links George Harrison to George Harrison, we will never find it except by accident. -Arch dude (talk) 01:15, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Almost there! So I've changed the first article to: "Cathy Baker (Hockey Player)" and published the other article as "Cathy Baker (Actress)". Now how do I make is so that a search on WP for "Cathy Baker" brings the reader to: Catherine Baker (disambiguation) instead of the Hockey Player? Thanks. Last question, I promise. Maineartists (talk) 02:12, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
I figured it out. Thank you ALL for your incredible help! Cheers! Maineartists (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

February 14 edit

Lupton family edit

Ref number 167 should have the 3 page numbers in the correct format in the page section. The quote should be separate. I cannot do this. please fix and thanks so much. (talk) 06:18, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done: created separate pages parameter. Eagleash (talk) 06:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Rhian Sugden - page deleted - how do I restore this page? edit


For some reason, Rhian Sugden's page on Wikipedia has been deleted, despite the majority of page 3 models being on the site.

Rhian is probably one of the most notable page three models - she appeared on Celebrity Big Brother and has had a very extensive career.

What do we need to do in order to have Rhian's page added back on wikipedia again? No idea why it was deemed suitable for deletion but she is still very much an active model. If you search her name on the news page of google there are almost daily articles written about her.

Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeirdPR (talkcontribs) 12:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

The page was not deleted. It was redirected as a result of this discussion three and a half years ago. Also, your assertion that "majority of page 3 models being on the site" is hyperbolic and false. I am disinclined to be helpful if you're going to be intellectually dishonest in your requests for help. --Jayron32 13:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, WeirdPR. The discussion which led to the article being changed to a redirect was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rhian Sugden: you can see that the clear consensus was that she did not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and so a separate article was not appropriate.
Please note the following:
  • It was not "Rhian Sugden's page", it was Wikipedia's article about Rhian Sugden. It in no sense belonged to her or to her associates
  • This is an encyclopaedia, not social media or a publicity site. promotion of any kind is forbidden.
  • By your name, I guess that you are from an agency representing Sugden. If so, you have a conflict of interest regarding here: this does not debar you from contributing, but you should read that link to understand what it does mean. If you are intending to edit Wikipedia in connection with her or any other of your clients, you will definitely be a paid editor, and declaring that appropriately is mandatory.
  • You need to change your user name (or abandon that one and create a new one). User accounts are for individuals only - they may not be shared - and the may not have a name which suggests that they are editing on behalf of an organisation.
If, after reading all the links above (in particular "notability") you decide that there are enough independent, reliably published sources about Sugden to ground an article, you may (once you have made the requisite declaration) try recreating the article. Creating an article is one of the hardest tasks in editing Wikipedia, and doing so with a COI is even harder. Read your first article, and use the Article wizard to create a draft. The previous content of the article is available at for reference, but I advise starting again based on what the independent sources say about her. --ColinFine (talk) 13:10, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

AFC review edit

I am reviewing Draft:Cyanography and I am checking the sources. In my opinion, I think it is close to (if not ready) to be accepted into mainspace. However, I can't see to access some of the sources because they are printed. Should I request the sources via WP:RX or should I just ignore them? Interstellarity (talk) 13:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Interstellarity, tbh, if the rest of the sourcing is acceptable, I'd just leave them, unless they're being used to support something really outlandish. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 13:49, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
@Alex Noble: I accepted the draft. Interstellarity (talk) 13:53, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

did I add this right edit

(This sounds late of me, on my part.) On here, I added the request about removing copyright. Then the last time I read it, was a while ago, where I may forgot another step to take. After adding the concern. Tainted-wingsz (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Should be OK. It is listed at Category:Requested RD1 redactions, so hopefully an admin will deal with it in due course. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:12, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Tainted-wingsz, also, you might be interested in User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel, which adds a visual interface for filling out the template. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 16:32, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
(In replying to the above.) Ah, alright.
(In replying about the visual interface.) I would try soon. But when there's something new I attend to read first and add what the rule/ guideline is and do what it told from there. (So when I do things like those.) This took me around an hour to report a concern. Then when I get busy with my job shift, I may gone back to where I can forget easily about it and read everything again. Tainted-wingsz (talk) 16:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

When the TOC is as long as the article edit

This question concerns Wiktionary, but, given that it and Wikipedia run on the same software, I thought I might ask here. I encountered this entry, which consists of an ungainly-looking, long and narrow TOC followed by dictionary-type material, and found its initial appearance on my monitor confusing, due to the huge area of white space. (I realize that infoboxes and images make this less of a problem on Wikipedia.) I thought that if the dictionary-type material could be brought up the page and lie to the right of the TOC, it might be a better format (I use a computer, not a phone). Is there some simple way to achieve this result? If the result were to look worse than the original, I would not apply it.--Quisqualis (talk) 16:45, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Hey Quisqualis. As a technical matter, you can use Template:TOC limit to shorten the TOC. But I don't know how that interacts with Wiktionary's standards for formatting. GMGtalk 16:47, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
@Quisqualis: Wiktionary has the templates wikt:Template:tocright and wikt:Template:tocright2, but currently no dictionary pages use them; and only two dictionary entries use wikt:Template:TOC limit. I suggest you find somewhere at Wiktionary to ask about this style issue before starting to use them. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:03, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm not that familiar with Wikitionary, but here on Wikipedia not having a heading before lead helps with that situation. I doubt on that particular entry that you'd want to eliminate the "English" header; as it distinguishes what follows from the French and other languages further down the page.  Actually; having just looked at several Wikitionary entries, such as the one for "Horse" and having clicked random page several times, it seems pretty standard over there to not have anything before the first heading and for the table of contents to be like that. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:29, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Weird spacing between paras edit

At Mères of France in the Lyon section between the 5th (Brazier) and 6th (Bourgeois) paras, I'm having a weird problem. I can't seem to get the normal amount of space between the paras. I can get double the space, half the space, or no space (one long paragraph) but I can't seem to get the normal amount of space between them. Can anyone figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thanks for any help! --valereee (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

My guess is the pictures are messing with the text. I would recommend taking all the pictures out and playing around a bit with picture placement to see if that works for you. --Jayron32 18:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Jayron32, thanks, someone else came along and fixed it so easily I'm embarrassed lol...--valereee (talk) 18:29, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Spell check not working in article body edit


When I edit Wikipedia, spellcheck is no longer available in the body of an article (it is available in the edit summary). Is there an option in my Preferences that I have to change to enable it in the article body? Thank you. David O. Johnson (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

I have noticed the same thing. I believe that your browser is doing the spell checking. I use Firefox, and it finds my typos in the edit box. I seems to be disabled in published WP articles, and for good reason, as "typo" means any word not in a spellchecker's dictionary, and there are many such words in most WP articles. Hope that answers your question, David O. Johnson.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:41, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply.David O. Johnson (talk) 21:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Krafla Power Station edit

Language problem(French instead of English ), References required .

Winghovercraft (talk) 19:43, 14 February 2020 (UTC)Winghovercraft

@Winghovercraft: An incorrect edit to Krafla Power Station removed the refs and replaced the English paragraph with French. The edit was reverted less than an hour before you posted here. -Arch dude (talk) 20:16, 14 February 2020 (UTC) edit

It has a bias of 24 hours per day but in reality from 4 to 22 h/day averaged 10 to 16 h/day. Also it has a bias of full year sun shine ignoring : cloud , longitude and latitude , altitude , season especially winter .

--Winghovercraft (talk) 20:03, 14 February 2020 (UTC)Winghovercraft

@Winghovercraft: Welcome to Wikipedia. If you have suggestions for improving an article, you can start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 20:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict):@Winghovercraft: it's best to discuss content issues on the relevant article's talk page. When you are fairly sure that you know how to improve the content, you can be bold and just fix it, knowing that another editor may disagree and revert your edit to start the discussion. -Arch dude (talk) 20:29, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Where to find a list of people, without dedicated pages in Wikipedia, who are cited in Wikipedia. edit

I would like to see a list of people who are mentioned in references to Wikipedia articles but who do not have their own page entries. My question is who are the people with the most such references.

An example of such a person would be the reporter, and author, Mark Arax. A search on Wikipedia for Mark Arax responds that "The page "Mark Arax" does not exist" yet gives over 50 references which cite Mark Arax.

Where or how could I find a list of such page-less people along with the number of times they are cited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:05, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure where you would find such a list; but I'm pretty sure any such list would be extremely lengthy. Most small-town reporters are not notable, yet their articles are routinely cited in articles about the areas they cover. There are many authors and scholars who have written one or two non-fiction books or scholarly articles that have been cited in Wikipedia but who are not themselves notable. Many of Wikipedia's best articles have hundreds of references, and I would say at least 60% of the authors of those references are not notable or, if they are, no one has yet written their bio. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:32, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia has strict rules on what it calls author notability, Even though a person has made a difference in the world, they may not get into Wikipedia. You might be able to add a brief section to Arax's employer's Wikipedia article, if Arax is considered a star reporter or has won awards. Be sure to make brief mention of other fellow reporters at the outlet who are his equals, as well, and remember to cite sources independent of all these people.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
I've often thought we need a separate namespace for cited authors. The pages would be standardized and minimal, not full biographies. The namespace distinction means that these are infrastructure pages, not Encyclopedia articles. Among other things, this would simplify things like fixing up the citations when a URL changes, because an editor could go to the author page and then hit "what links here". It would also help in identifying "walled gardens". Wikidata could almost, but not quite, be used for this. -Arch dude (talk) 22:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Contact with users edit

How to send or reply to messages ?!

Winghovercraft (talk) 20:17, 14 February 2020 (UTC)Winghovercraft

@Winghovercraft: initiate a new discussion in a new section on the user's talk page. In general, reply as part of an ongoing discussion by editing within the section of the page where the discussion is occuring (e.g., on this help desk.) If not on the user's talks page, it's a good idea to {{ping}} the other user. -Arch dude (talk) 20:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Your information is appreciated .
@Winghovercraft: You appear to have mistakenly tried to intiate a discussion within an article rather that on that article's talk page. That does not work. (Well, it technically works, but it will be immediately reverted because it belongs on the talk page.) Try again, no harm done. -Arch dude (talk) 21:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

February 15 edit

Why do so many commonly-used templates use MODULES? When they don't need to? edit

Such as Ambox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pomegranatecookie (talkcontribs) 00:27, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Why don't you go ahead and nominate the modules used by templates you think use modules unnecessarily for deletion, as I have been doing for the past few years? * Pppery * it has begun... 01:13, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I'm nominating it for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pomegranatecookie (talkcontribs) 19:05, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Pomegranatecookie: There are a number of factors that guide the decision to use a module instead of writing the code entirely in a template. In favour of templates, there appear to be far fewer Lua programmers available to maintain modules than there are editors who are comfortable enough with the Wikipedia template syntax to maintain complex templates. In favour of modules, the Scribunto implementation is capable of doing jobs not possible in templates alone, and for programmers it is easier to understand and maintain a well written module than the corresponding template, once a certain level of complexity has been reached. --RexxS (talk) 20:23, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay, but why not use the {{#switch:}} command? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pomegranatecookie (talkcontribs) 21:02, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Pomegranatecookie: What makes you think editors don't use {{#switch:}}? For example, we use it twice in {{reflist}}, a template used in 4,651,029 articles. --RexxS (talk) 22:26, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Why don't they use {{#switch:}} to replace the module for Ambox then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pomegranatecookie (talkcontribs) 22:32, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Pomegranatecookie: Up until 2012, there were seven separate templates for the different message boxes commonly used. All of these had a lot of code in common, so when the Wikipedia Scribunto (Lua) extension became available, Mr. Stradivarius took the opportunity to create a single Lua module to implement the functionality of all seven. The module contained the common code for all of the boxes just once, and selected the type of message box by a parameter which could call on a predefined configuration for that type. That allows another type to be added easily in future if needed, and for routine amendments to the common code to be done in one place. If he had decided to use template coding alone, the switch would be able to select the box type, but much of the common code would be repeated in each section of the switch. That would have defeated most of the advantages gained from consolidating the different boxes into a single piece of code. --RexxS (talk) 23:34, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Lupton family edit

Ref 167 is in the red. Please fix, I cannot. Thanks (talk) 03:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done, just a tab character in the ref. MB 04:42, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Fix NOINDEX articles edit

Hello I'm a new user and I recently created a translated English version of a page but it's been many hours since I finished it and it still isn't showing up on google results.How can I fix this?Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnslps (talkcontribs) 06:32, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@Gnslps: Hello, new articles are not indexed by searh engines until they are marked as reviewed or for 90 days, whichever is the shoretr period. Template:Please Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:44, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash:I recently created an article and it was indexed almost instantly,thats why I'm frastrated!How can I get it reviewd? Thank you!Gnslps (talk) 06:55, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Gnslps: Unfortunately you can't 'force' a review (as it were). There are about 7,500 pages awaiting review and there is no set order. FWIW, about 3,300 pages were reviewed this week. Eagleash (talk) 07:02, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash:So the 90 days can be from 2 to 6000 as I can understand!Then I guess im just waiting!Thank you very mutch!Gnslps (talk) 07:06, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Gnslps: New pages that are not reviewed in 90 days are then indexed. (They are still subject to review though). Eagleash (talk) 07:20, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Eagleash:this hurts my ocd though... Gnslps (talk) 07:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Nevertheless, we do not index items on google until they have been patrolled. The 90 day limit is to stop items from not being indexed due to a lack of a review, it's quite uncommon for an item to reach this length. I'd assume you are talking about Xanthi Carnival, which would need substantial cleanup before we would want it indexed. I'm not convinced it meets WP:GNG to be honest. Someone will be around to review the item at some point. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:20, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Only Archived pages are available edit

Hi, wikipedia i found a Topic in news websites by wayback machine. But original links are not working only archived links are working. Should I use those archived links as reference / sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 07:49, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

You should put both into the {{cite web}} template. If it's a link that doesn't work, put in |url-status=dead. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:11, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski and If |archive-url= is specified, |url-status=dead is the default and so does not need to be added for a dead |url=. If the |url= is not dead, add |url-status=live. If the |url= has been redirected to another unrelated or potentially harmful site, specify |url-status=unfit (or usurped) and possibly report it to WP:URLREQ. See {{Citation/doc#URL}}. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 08:50, 15 February 2020 (UTC) There is a deeper issue here, and I don't know what our policy is. Since you personally never read the original URL, but you are citing this information, it's not clear that you should mention the original URL at all: you got your information from the archive. This differs from when an editor comes along later and adds an archive link to a reference with a dead link, where the original editor presumably used the original URL. -Arch dude (talk) 16:09, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Adding a hotlink edit

I am trying to edit the entry for Tenterden Kent and cannot see how to add a hotlink to an information page. Please advise. Nick Hudd, Tenterden, Kent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nphudd (talkcontribs) 08:59, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Nphudd. I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "hotlink": I think you simply mean a link to a site outside Wikipedia. These are called "external links", and Wikipedia policy is quite restrictive on what you may link to - see EL for details. --ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Confusing message appeared after a message I left on someone else's user page (and then disappeared). edit

I recently left a message on someone else's user page (here: [[3]]) and after my message, there appeared an automated Wikipedia message that said something along the lines of "your account has been blocked because your username gives the impression that you represent a group or people or an organization. Please create a new account" (or something like that. I'm not exactly sure). The automated message has since disappeared from their page. I was/am uncertain what it meant or to whom it was addressed. Does it mean I am blocked? Does it mean the user Favonian is blocked? I can't imagine why my username ("Skllagyook") would be thought to represent a group or organization (I'm pretty sure it does not - it is based on an Inuit surname I heard once - which I probably misheard). "Favonian" does not sound like any group or organization I know of either. I am rather confused. Thank you. Skllagyook (talk) 12:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

If you look at the history link from User talk:Favonian you'll see that the message to which you refer, claiming that Favonian's account had been blocked, was not an automated message but was vandalism placed (a number of times) by who has himself now been blocked. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:31, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
I think I understand. So I am not blocked then? Skllagyook (talk) 12:39, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
No, you are not blocked, and never have been. if you were blocked you would have been notified on your own user talk page, not on another user's page, and you would have been unable to post here. Favonian wasn't blocked either, but sadly there are many stupid people who vandalise pages on the encyclopedia as in this case; if they persist in such vandalism they are soon blocked. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:48, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Ok. Thank you very much (I was a bit worried). Skllagyook (talk) 12:52, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Coronavirus edit


I'm Mongolia. I'm translated article "2019 novel coronavirus" and saved in my computer. I want to add a this article in translated list in wikipedia. But mongolian language is'nt have in language list of 2019 novel coronavirus and i can't editing language list of article because this article is semiprotected.

please add mongolian language in language list of 2019 novel coronavirus

thank uoy for your attention — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:47, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Interlanguage links are handled by Wikidata, not the English Wikipedia. To add a translation to the list of links, please make a request at wikidata:Talk:Q82069695, using wikidata:Template:Edit request. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 15:20, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Else, you can go to "edit links" on either page and add the other page, and it will fix this. I couldn't find a version on the mongolian wiki yet. You will need to publish this before you can do anything else. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 16:36, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

15-23 edit

Any new information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Protectorwolf (talkcontribs) 14:52, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Protectorwolf, you're going to have to give us more information here. Do you have a question about editing or using the English Wikipedia? ~~ Alex Noble - talk 15:23, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes. JD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:240:8201:DCF0:3181:5B15:C66B:3426 (talk) 16:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text at article "Josephine Donovan" edit

Would like to add this reference: 1.

Thank you, Josephine Donovan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:240:8201:DCF0:3181:5B15:C66B:3426 (talk) 16:17, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

That reference had been in the article before your edits, but you deleted its definition as a named reference. I have reinserted it in this edit, and also removed the misplaced external link which you placed in the article text. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
You need to read about conflict of interest and about autobiography. You ought not to be editing the article yourself, but you can suggest edits using the article talk page, supporting your suggestions with references to published reliable sources which are independent of yourself. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

About article approval for Publishing edit


I would want to ask, when can I submitted an article for its evaluation to publisihing? I have been working a draft ´´Anamaria Font´´ (an oustanding Venezuelan Physicist woman) and I think, maybe I am wrong, that it has a good minimal content for publishing.

Thank you for help me.

Joselen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joselenpena (talkcontribs) 16:38, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

I'd assume it's Draft:Joselenpena? I have nominated this for articles for creation on your behalf. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 16:47, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Photo Copyright edit

I am new to editing Wikipedia and want to correct and update the page about my Mother in Law, the actor Daphne Anderson

The photo that is on the page is not of Daphne, but of somebody else. We have an extensive collection of photos of Daphne which passed to my wife on Daphne's death and I would like to upload one of her publicity photos which would have been taken some time in the 1950s. There are similar images of her online in photos which were obviously taken at the same session, but I do not have any copyright information about the photo (photographer, whether they were taken for a film etc.). Is the fact that the photo was passed to our ownership enough to give us permission to upload it?

Many thanks

ColinAGStratford (talk) 19:19, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the copyright is likely to belong to the photographer, or the photographer's heir, and you're unlikely to be able to identify them, let alone get their permission to relinquish control of them and let them be used in Wikipedia. This is a common problem oo Wikipedia. (If it were for my own web site, I'd think "what the hell – no-one's going to sue me, and even if they do, I'll just apologise and take them down". But Wikipedia, with its millions of articles, acts responsibly and strives to obey the law.)
I'll look into the photo now being shown, and may remove it. Maproom (talk) 20:55, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the picture from the article, and left a comment on the picture's talk page.
I'm not fully aware of the details, but I believe that Wikipedia allows low-resolution versions of copyrighted images of deceased people to be used, if no "free" version can be found. You may be able to upload such a version here on English-language Wikipedia, though not to Wiklimedia Commons. Maproom (talk) 21:09, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks for the prompt response. I'll get on to finding an image which we can use! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:41, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Maproom is correct: you can upload and use a copyright picture on English Wikipedia as long as all the conditions in the non-free content criteria are met. These can hardly ever be met for living people, because there is usually at least a possibility of getting a free picture; but that particular criterion is usually met for pictures of deceased people. --ColinFine (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
With regard to your first paragraph above, ColinAGStratford: please make sure that any information you want to add to the article is referenced to a reliable published source; personal knowledge and unpublished documents are not accepted as sources for information in Wikipedia articles. Also, as a family member, you are regarded as having a conflict of interest, so rather than editing that article directly, you are recommended to post edit requests on the article's talk page Talk:Daphne Anderson. --ColinFine (talk) 00:06, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Where should Short Descriptions be hosted? edit

Hello. I've written some short descriptions for some pages but I'm confused about one thing; where should they be hosted? I add them to this wiki, then they sometimes get auto-moved to Wikidata (for example Godzilla (Q83050393)). I remember reading something on The Signpost[where?] about moving all short descriptions from Wikidata to Wikipedia once Wikipedia reaches 6m articles (which, hasn't happened), so should they not be there?

Should short descriptions be hosted on Wikidata or Wikipedia? –ToxiBoi! (contribs) 21:12, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

They should be hosted here, see WP:Short description. Information on Wikidata is out of our control. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
ToxiBoi, when you use the short description helper script to add them here, it will add them to Wikidata if there isn't already one there. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 23:02, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Lupton family edit

References 168 and 171 are the same. Please fix up in the way Wikipedia do it. Leave in quote. I cannt do this so Thanks. (talk) 23:13, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done Both instances were in the one group of refs at the end of a paragraph and seemed to be in verification the same statement. Therefore, removed the second instance. Eagleash (talk) 23:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Bloated articles edit

Are there WP policies/criteria which warrant condensation/deletion of portions of an article which seem like irrelevant ramifications or borderline information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:36, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

See WP:SPLIT for article that are too long. Generally, we would split the article into chunks, as most topics of long length are actually about more than one thing. We should strive to push a streamlined prose/narrative throughout all of our articles. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 22:45, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Very long taxonomic lists edit

I'm writing an article for a large group of animals and wish to know if there are any guidelines on what to do with huge taxonomic lists (I've already checked Wikipedia:Manual of Style and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Organisms). Specifically, am I allowed to make biological taxonomic lists collapsible? In this case, I have an Order (which is only divided in families, genera and species), but most genera are extinct and only have one species each. Should I list every species, or can I stop at genus-level and link the pages to the one species in each genus? Or maybe list the species binomial names directly after families? Should I make a separate page for the entire list of species, instead? For reference, the list of living species is 150 lines long, but I can't really estimate its size once I add the extinct ones. Can that actually be called a "long list", by the way? Thanks a lot, and forgive me if this is not the right place to ask this. -- QueijoQuente (talk) 23:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@QueijoQuente: It's always OK to start at the help desk, but sometimes we must direct you elsewhere. In general, you should use your editorial judgement. In this case, you might want to take your question to the talk page of the appropriate Wikiproject, perhaps with a recommendation if you have formed an opinion. You may wish to cross-post to the talk page of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Organisms. -Arch dude (talk) 23:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I'm going to post it to the talk page of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Organisms, then. Thank you for the answer :) -- QueijoQuente (talk) 23:47, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
@QueijoQuente: The question of how to organise very large articles or lists is discussed at Wikipedia:Splitting and Wikipedia:Summary style. The answer to your specific question is "yes, but not by default". The reasons are laid out at Wikipedia:Manual of Style #Scrolling lists and collapsible content and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility #Users with limited CSS or JavaScript support. HTH --RexxS (talk) 01:14, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
@RexxS: Hi, thanks for the answer. I had already read those guides you mentioned, but since there were no specific discussion on how to handle species list and I didn't remember any article collapsing them, I decided to check here for specific guidelines first. I think I'll start a discussion on the article's talk page and refrain from adding the full list on the page for a while - maybe splitting is really the best option here. Thanks again for the help ^-^ -- QueijoQuente (talk) 02:09, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

February 16 edit

dabsolver for watchlist is broken edit

Hi guys, I've been trying for the last few days to use the "watchlist" function of the dab solver tool, which allows you to find links to disambiguation pages in all the articles on your watchlist. But when I go to "sign in" / "connect to wikipedia", it crashes and gives a Python error. Does anybody know if this tool is also available somewhere else, or if there's something I could do in order to log in to be able to run the tool? Thanks! Dr. Vogel (talk) 00:42, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi all, would anyone be able to confirm that it is indeed broken and it isn't just me? I'd really like to be able to use this tool. Thanks very much! Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:33, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I just tried and it gave me the Python script error. MB 17:37, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

James Kitson, 1st Baron Airedale edit

I have added a book in the "family" section of this page. It is a mess. Please fix if able. Sorry and thanks (talk) 07:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Working on it. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 08:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Grtting the talk page edit

So, {{TALKPAGENAME}} will give me the talk page of the page that I am on, but is there a way to do something like {{TALKPAGENAME: Bean}} to give me the talk page of the page Bean? (Talk:Bean) Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BEANS X2 (talkcontribs) 09:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@BEANS X2: [[{{TALKPAGENAME:Bean}}]] produces Talk:Bean. See WP:MAGIC. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 10:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Berney baronets edit

In the section titled "Links with Middleton family" there is a reference to the Yorkshire Ramblers Club. There is a wikipedia link for it but it wont work on my device. Please do it if you can Thanks (talk) 10:07, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done, thanks 175! ——SN54129 10:26, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Lupton family edit

In the Barbara Lupton (Lady Bullock) section reference 92 is not relevant but it IS relevant when the same reference is used in the earlier Hugh Lupton section. I am not able to remove this duplicate reference from the Barbara Lupton section. Please help and thanks (talk) 10:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done, 175. That was a poorly written section all over, loads of extraneous spaces. ——SN54129 10:26, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Article yet to published edit

I created a biography page of someone since January, and till date Wikipedia has not published it. Please how may you help? The subject: Mulikat Sarumi Biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idrab4all (talkcontribs) 11:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

You produced a draft: Draft:Mulikat Sarumi Biography but did not submit it for AFC review. It would be pointless to submit it in its current state as it has no references to published independent reliable sources to demonstrate the subject's notability. You need to read the advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK Check tool edit

How do I add the Hook Length Warning option [[4]] to the DYK Check tool? It gives a script to add to a page:

importScript('User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js'); //DYKcheck tool
hookLengthYellow = 190;
hookLengthRed = 200;
fixedSidebar = "never";

But I don't know where to find that page.--Ykraps (talk) 11:26, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Same place as the install: User:Ykraps/vector.js Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 12:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I think I've added that tool now. Where can I find the page? Is it in preferences somewhere?--Ykraps (talk) 12:30, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Should be something that shows up on the left hand side on the article (on the toolbar.) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 16:45, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

VKB Landbou page edit

Dear, my new page :VKB Landbou is not appearing on my searches. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by TwinMosia (talkcontribs) 14:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

TwinMosia You created it in Wikipedia space, which is not article space. I will move it to Draft space so you can submit it for a review by another editor before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, so any problems are worked out first. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
TwinMosia I have moved it to Draft:VKB Landbou. You can submit the draft for review, but it would not be accepted as it is now, as you do not have enough independent reliable sources with significant coverage to support the content of the draft; there is also promotional language in the draft. If you work for this company, you must read and comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 14:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
It's also almost entirely a copy of the company website, which is a copyright violation. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Edits edit

I have been providing extremely well referenced authoritative information on this:

One of my edits, which documents the lack of reporting of toxic materials, was by Angus1986 removed as being "not constructive." It was, however factually correct. Wikipedia is supposed to be "encyclopedic" - which means all the well-referenced facts. Removing well-referenced facts under the aegis of "not being constructive" seems wrong, or at least a minor technicality for an encyclopedia. (and it is constructive in the sense of providing additional references germane to the core topic)

Please explain the issue more fully. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

When an edit get reverted, your next step is to discuss it with the reverting editor (see WP:BRD) to reach consensus. Please assume good faith (see WP:AGF) you are both trying to improve the biggest and best encyclopedia the world as ever seen. If that fails, then get additional input: see WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 17:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Note also,, that "encyclopedic" does not mean "exhaustive"; in fact, it means "brief" here on Wikipedia. Encyclopedia articles must leave out a lot of stuff. That is why they are shorter than any authoritative book on a subject. Editors must make hard choices in determining what goes in and what must stay out. I remove tangential, trivial and off-topic material from Wikipedia articles on a regular basis.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
EDIT: Thank you for the reply. I saw that but cannot figure out how to initiate the process, get more information / make contact with the editor to find out what "not constructive" means and why it warrants dismissal of well-referenced information. How to make contact? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:42, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Please go to the talk page of the article in question at Talk:SpaceX Merlin (or just click the "talk" tab at the top of the article: it's the same place). Add a new section. {{Ping}} the reverting editor. Note that the phrase "not constructive" is auto-generated by some vandal-fighting tools and if a vandal fighter got in a hurry and made a mistake, you may have been the victim. Please don't take offense, as those volunteers have a huge amount of work do in their self-assigned, thankless task, and to keep up they must work fast and will occasionally make mistakes. -Arch dude (talk) 18:36, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Once again, thank you for the reply. No offense. I can't tell what the "Ping" link means in this context - it appears to be a template of some sort. By author, in this case, do you mean "Angus1986" who appears the be the one who reverted my edit?
Yes, write your message and include {{Ping|Angus1986}}. Make sure to sign using 4 tidles Ppelberg-test (talk) 23:23, 17 February 2020 (UTC) or it won't work. RudolfRed (talk) 19:36, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the reply. That last bit about a signature doesn't compute for me - can you give an example? I looked on the "Talk" page which was mentioned ("Please go to the talk page of the article in question") but didn't see any of the edits with tildes. Did you mean the text box labelled "Sign your posts on talk pages:" and enter (talk) 20:14, 16 February 2020 (UTC) in that?

EDIT: I think I get it - when I insert the characters (4 tildes) in the text of my comment, it inserts my IP address, right? (talk) 20:32, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

That's right, IP user. --ColinFine (talk) 20:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
It also inserts a timestamp in the correct format. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:06, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Wilberforce Colony edit


In the article about "Wilberforce Colony," there is an omission - Instead of Wilberforce Colony was a colony established about 1829 by free African Americans," 'SHOULD INCLUDE "and escaped slaves!"

I know this because I am one of many great great great granddaughters - of "Peter Butler!" For further reference validation, a book has been written by Daniel G. Hill, called "The Freedom Seekers: Blacks in early Canada.

"THE FREEDOM SEEKERS: Blacks in early Canada," Publisher: Soc of Canada Ltd., January 1, 1981, ISBN - 10 0772552843, ISBN - 13 978 - 0772552846, p.68'Italic text ''' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:6900:141F:5D29:4259:446D:E9AA (talk) 18:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Refugee slaves, who had escaped to freedom in Canada, also joined the colony. So, it is already mentioned. Ruslik_Zero 20:31, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Since you have this book and have read it, please feel free to add it as a additional reference to that sentence in the article. Even better, expand the article further based on material in the book. If you are not comfortable editing directly, suggest some wording in a new section on the article's talk page, include your reference there as you did here, and add the magic incantation {{request edit}} to attract the attention of an editor. And thanks. -Arch dude (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

List of Amusement Parks - Closed Parks edit

I've tried to added a page with a list of amusement parks. I've tried to add the information that a park is permanently closed. My edit was reverted because of "vandalism". If somebody wants to add the information again, please do. I think it is a valuable information and it is true. The park is closed. I will not try to edit again. I don't know how to answer the person who wrote me and he/she doesn't seem interested in a helping a beginner to add such information. Personal note: I've tried to edit Wikipedia 15 years ago and I tried now. It's still to complicated for me. I'm back to helping the OSM. Bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:51, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. You maybe won't see this, if you've really gone away; but I hope you do stay. Thank you for wanting to help us improve Wikipedia, and I'm sorry you've had a bad experience. What I see in your edit is that you added a foreign word to an English Wikipedia article, and gave no explanation of why. Now, some readers of English Wikipedia will know that "geschlossen" is German for "closed"; but many may not. They see a piece of nonsense in the article (not everybody will realise that it is a German word) and wonder why. If they look through the history, they see it was inserted by an anonymous account with no explanation of why. Do you see why the editor who reverted it might have thought your edit "unconstructive". (Incidentally, I can't see anywhere where the word "vandalism" appeared in respect of this edit, before you mentioned it above).
Furthermore, even if a reader recognised the word as meaning "closed", there is no source given for the information: how does the reader know it is accurate? It's not an ironclad rule that all information in articles is accompanied by a source, but it's certainly preferable.
If you have a published source for the fact that the Salzberger Erlebnis Park is closed, you are welcome to reapply your edit, in English, with an edit summary explaining why; and preferably, a source that says it's closed. (Alternatively, since no source is given for the park, and it is not even mentioned in the article Neuenstein, Hesse, it might be better to simply remove it from the list). --ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Help with User page and images edit

Hi im try to place some images into my user page but whenever I do they just go immediately to below the infobox. any way to pervent this?DMT biscuit (talk) 23:32, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Have you tried just placing them within the infobox? For George Washington, there is a line in the infobox parameters | image = Gilbert Stuart Williamstown Portrait of George Washington.jpg. You would put the title of your image in place of the title in bold. You have to upload your image first, though.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

February 17 edit

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment edit

I need a link to the archived January 2020 posts to the above project, please. Anyone? Thanks,--Quisqualis (talk) 00:53, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Quisqualis: Here: Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Entertainment/January_2020 RudolfRed (talk) 01:24, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Help for a begginer edit

Is there someone or perhaps a service that can help me publish my page on Wikipedia? I have read the FAQ and have not found the help I need. I have uploaded the content and need help, especially with uploading a photo and the template for the right aligned text box. Thank you in advance for your kind direction. Please send help... here is a link to my draft: Draft:Meredith McCrindle. Thank you, Harpmom39 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harpmom39 (talkcontribs) 01:11, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Harpmom39, your draft, unfortunately, is highly promotional in tone and content and cannot be moved into mainspace in its current condition. If I were you I'd start by removing all those inline URLs and citing properly--see WP:CITE. That is the first step--the second is to make it more neutral. We are not here to promote people. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:14, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
@Harpmom39: your Very first step must be to establish notability of the topic. To do this, you must find two or more reliable sources of the correct type. If you cannot establish notability to the satisfaction of yourself and other editors, your article will be deleted, no matter how excellent it is in all other ways. See Wikipedia:Notability (music). There are several common ways to mess this up. See Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability). To answer your specific question: there are people who will take your money and write an article for you, but they have no way to prevent us from deleting the article if the topic is not notable. After you establish notability, we can provide your with further assistance, for free. -Arch dude (talk) 01:47, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
@Harpmom39: Based on your username, I'm guessing you are either the subject of the article or are related to them. Please see WP:AUTO and/or WP:COI for policies in this regard, and WP:PROUD for why it might not necessarily be desirable. Thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Berney baronets edit

I have accidently removed a section on the Berney baronets. Please replace and leave in the recent text change that I added in. Thanks (talk) 01:44, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

  Done Note for the future that you can undo an edit by clicking on the "undo" link for that edit from the article's history page (click the "View History" tab). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:04, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

David Worth Clark edit

In reading info. about The Northern Baptist Theological Seminary I clicked on the name, David w. Clark, President of Palm Beach Atlantic College (and former graduate of The Northern Baptist Theological Seminary). The next screen that came up was about a David Worth Clark who died in 1955 and gave no reference to Palm Beach Atlantic College. I then clicked on Palm Beach Atlantic College and read the correct info. about its past Presidents and the correct David W. Clark who was president at the college around 2003. So, obviously, the David Worth Clark in the link I clicked on IS NOT THE CORRECT David W. Clark who was a former president of the Palm Beach Atlantic College.

I don't know how to delete this incorrect link shown on the Northern Baptist Theological Seminary informational page, but, someone who does know how to do it, needs to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:32, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

  Fixed There is no article for the Clark you're referring to, so I just de-linked it and readers can click the Palm Beach Atlantic University link to read about Clark. - FlightTime (open channel) 03:29, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

15th century English edit

I have a 15th-century English recipe that I'm trying to puzzle through, and our list of translators doesn't seem to cover that lol. Anyone know where I can go to ask? --valereee (talk) 13:49, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee: is it in a contemporary hand? Anyway, I have a professional knowledge of this kind of thing, for my sins, so feel free to send it over and I'll have a look. ——SN54129 13:59, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129, thanks, will bring it to your talk! --valereee (talk) 14:06, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Fixing an edit summary edit

Is it possible to go back to change your edit summary once your edit is saved? If not, is there a user script I can use to change it? Interstellarity (talk) 15:51, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

No. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:51, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
No, but see Help:Edit summary#Fixing. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:37, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
@Pppery and David Biddulph: Thanks for informing. Interstellarity (talk) 17:05, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Significant confusion about how to do this edit

I am a composer of music and am trying to get just a brief mention and foothold about my work. I drafted a short article, but am very confused about the next steps. Mention in Wiki would help people to know me, and in getting works performed. Some have been performed. I have training and there are plenty of references who can verify I am a serious composer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J Inness54 (talkcontribs) 16:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not for promotion. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:39, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
@J Inness54: Even if you wrote a non-promotional article, it would still be deleted. Wikipedia will retain and improve an article on any notable subject, as we define it. We will delete an article on a non-notable subject. See WP:COMPOSER for the relevant notability criteria. Notability must be supported by reliable sources (WP:RS). This is easy to mess up: see Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability). Also take a look at WP:PROUD. Since Wikipedia is not the venue for your effort take a look at alternatives: see WP:OUT. -Arch dude (talk) 17:24, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Editing this page: edit

I do not have permissions to edit; could someone with higher permissions write that it is published on Mondays? Specifically: is a weekly shōnen manga anthology published on Mondays in Japan by This information can be verified from the Japanese version of the page. MarvNC (talk) 19:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@MarvNC: Thanks for wanting to improve the article. However, without being able to read Japanese, it is impossible to determine the correct source to cite for this information. You can place an edit request on the article's talk page, and when you do, please provide the citation for it (see [[WP:REFB]). RudolfRed (talk) 20:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I should also note that the date of a publication isn't particularly notable. It's certainly not lede material. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Pictured Building Name Correction edit

Production Edit

Caption under picture:

Several scenes are set in Maynard, Massachusetts. The car chase scene goes through the Assabet Woolen Mill (pictured), now known as Clock Tower Place.

Please edit, "now known as Clock Tower Place", to... "now known as Mill & Main.

Thank you! (talk) 20:12, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Mill & Main, property management company, Lincoln Property Company

You should start a discussion on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 20:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Bush wrongful Case in Courts against me in 2002 without any evidence. edit

cc: U.S. Supreme Court Justices, U.S. Appeals Court, U.S. Federal Courts, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, Immigration Court. _______________________________________________________________________,

Sincerely, S. Kabuom — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:14, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

I removed a large chunk of text. This is the help desk for the Wikipedia encyclopedia. We cannot help you with whatever problem you are having in the courts. Consult a lawyer. RudolfRed (talk) 20:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

I can no longer find book creator as an option on wiki pages edit

Is book creator still an option? I cannot find it anywhere, and I cannot find any indication that it has been discontinued. Can you clarify and if it is still available to create a book by combining individual wiki pages, can you direct me to the information on how to access and use it. --Scholar0051 (talk) 22:14, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

The book creator still exists and is still accessible at Special:Book. The community chose to hide the link on the sidebar because it was mostly non-functional. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Is it possible to create a book within wiki and then download it -for free- in some kind of file format for my own use? I understand PDF is not an option, but what can I use? The book creator is highly, highly useful application for rapidly creating background information. I would like to use this feature but I'm stumped by how to navigate the increasing complicated wikipedia-related pages to utilize this feature. Simple directions would be greatly appreciated.--Scholar0051 (talk) 22:40, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

is edit

Monique Reed Louisville KY 2900 Phipps ln — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:53, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

making a new page edit

hi i noticed that there isnt a page for Luke Mullen actor from andi mack and american housewives - but i am unsure what are the guidelines about making a page for someone who isnt worldwide famous? Any tips as well? Kinda Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxwell King123321 (talkcontribs) 23:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC)